This Web page is part of the Conversations with History Web site created by the Institute of International Studies at the University of California Berkeley On this page Harry Kreisler interviews Robert McNamara Mr McNamara served as president of the Ford Motor Company as Secretary of Defense during the Kennedy administration and as president of the World Bank During the course of the interview Kreisler and his guest discuss leadership and management skills the decline of liberal values and the conflict in Vietnam Video segments of this interview can be downloaded using RealPlayer software